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Not to mention they ...
By: Gettinghitonattheban. on 09 Jan 09, 01:20:07
Not to mention they are created by the state through state charter.

If it weren't for ...
By: HegAndCapGood. on 08 Jan 09, 03:54:09
If it weren't for some amount of "corporate personhood", those businesses wouldn;t even exist. Ah...I love the smell of destitution and poverty...

Wrong. Libertarians ...
By: jasrid04. on 06 Jan 09, 05:15:43
Wrong. Libertarians want freedom for the INDIVIDUAL. NOT "Tyranies." True, corporations as they exist today are perverted and act tyrannically. However, that is because they are CREATURES OF THE STATE. They enjoy "Corporate Personhood", limmited liability, (usully) taxation bennefits, and other bennefits 'granted' to them by THE STATE. campaignforliberty . com

Schools and studies ...
By: freeyourcrt. on 05 Jan 09, 20:45:39
Schools and studies. Hmmmm. Very compelling. At the end of the day no one is FORCING me to shop or work at WalMart.

It is actually ...
By: lakeviewviking. on 05 Jan 09, 07:35:27
It is actually Chomsky and his allies who want political control over others not libertarians (at least consistent libertarians, which is why i think libertarians running for office is a waste of time). To be fair, Chomsky is a vocal critic of the left's slide into flippant deconstructionism over the past 30 years...at least you know where chomsky stands, whereas one can't even get a straight answer out of your typical "Cultural Studies" text.

Implying that there ...
By: strike2inciner8. on 04 Jan 09, 17:42:23
Implying that there is a minimum wage immediately defeats the idea that we live in a free market. In a free market, people are paid by what the market demands because there labor is a product just like anything else. The reasons corporations thrive is because the market is so regulated and taxed it is almost impossible for new comers to get into the business. If I wanted to start selling sandwiches that I make myself, my overhead would be thousands of dollars before I even considered supplies.

It's kind of true. ...
By: DaveIrie. on 04 Jan 09, 14:31:47
It's kind of true. Like those who say they're 'Constitutionalists' & want to 'restore the Republic' I wonder when was the U.S. ever not an imperialist corporatist force of domination of others?

Chomsky is not ...
By: myroseaccount. on 04 Jan 09, 01:11:10
Chomsky is not against a FREE MARKET per se! It is simply the case that a free market DOES NOT EXIST. This is actually all he is saying. We live in an era of corporate MERCANTILISM! large corporate, mostly private, institutions, dominate markets and commerce. They do this with government support. without the TAXPAYERS our present system is unsustainable! Government's role it to ensure profit and ROI is maintained! However, profit is diminishing! I ain't working for minimum wage! How about U?

Simple and straight ...
By: strike2inciner8. on 04 Jan 09, 00:49:09
Simple and straight forward if you don't analyze his sources, or his argument. You'll guickly find he's citing unproven symptoms of his idea of a free market, not imperial evidence. Also, he claims to know the "real" views of several critical thinkers who are dead. How can you propose to know what they really meant without asking? Sounds silly to me.

But in a free ...
By: strike2inciner8. on 04 Jan 09, 00:46:48
But in a free market, a company, GE or otherwise, would provide electricity because its a profitable business. There is an inelastic demand for electricity. They wouldn't be given a monopoly on an area by the government like they are now. Innovation would happen and costs would decrease. Think outside the keynesian economic box.

Wall street isn't a ...
By: strike2inciner8. on 04 Jan 09, 00:42:20
Wall street isn't a free market, it's regulated by law and plundered by taxes. If you think socializing costs of big business is a problem, you should be against the federal reserve, not the free market.

Quotes are not ...
By: strike2inciner8. on 04 Jan 09, 00:40:53
Quotes are not arguments.

So why cant the ...
By: RezaDemocrat. on 03 Jan 09, 01:54:57
So why cant the right do the same...

The majority of the ...
By: RezaDemocrat. on 03 Jan 09, 01:54:29
The majority of the people is pretty dumb when it comes to political science. After almost five years at the university I have meet plenty of un-intellectual professors. Most of them have an agenda, a left-wing one that they impose on the students. The students are also pretty dumb so they buy everything they say, noone thinks outside the box because noone wants to be social exkluded. With no-arguments and name calling you can get people on your side. The left have been doing so for years..

Your statement is ...
By: freeyourcrt. on 02 Jan 09, 16:57:58
Your statement is by far one of the most persuasive and most likely to create conformity: Posing as the opposition yourself, you paint all who don't worship at the altar of Chomsky and his phony intellectualism as blabbering bigoted knuckle draggers, The kicker is to then falsely associate this fictional troglodyte you've created with some group you wish to discredit but have no argumentative way of doing so. Again, it's basic but effective to swaying those who won't think for themselves.

Again, this is an ...
By: zasterguava. on 02 Jan 09, 02:19:54
Again, this is an argument FOR free market capitalism, not against.

The bailout and ...
By: XericJager. on 01 Jan 09, 23:00:18
The bailout and re-capitalization is the fault of government not capitalism. A capitalist society has no 500 pound gorilla collecting and printing money to redistribute to the failing Fortune 500 Wall Street corporations. It's in Chomsky's wold/society where that is an option.

No substance? he ...
By: myroseaccount. on 01 Jan 09, 22:51:33
No substance? he provides direct quotes from the Wealth of Nations! Von Mises, Hayek and Friedman are credited with a REVIVAL of Classical Liberal thought in the mid 20th century. They adapted it in a way that Chomsky and others suggest is very different from the enlightenment ideals of Smith, Jefferson and so on!

Like those great ...
By: myroseaccount. on 01 Jan 09, 22:44:19
Like those great free marketeers on WALL STREET and the FORTUNE 500. All bailed out and being re-capitalised at public expense. Public subsidy and PRIVATE profit. The profit is privatised, the costs and risks are socialised. Just ask a BANKER!

Most major ...
By: myroseaccount. on 01 Jan 09, 22:42:24
Most major corporations, private and public, are unaccountable. Take just one example, how do I hold General Electric to account? Through the market? How? I could buy my lightbulbs from Phillips and my nuclear reactors from the French! Or I could ask the UK government not to buy reactors or weapons or spend my taxes on GE defence equipment! I think we diverge from Adam Smith's free market at this point. Without government GE would not exist for a second! Hence, one of the points Chomsky makes!

5 minutes of simple ...
By: myroseaccount. on 01 Jan 09, 22:33:22
5 minutes of simple straightforward reason and common sense! Who says that complex and difficult things can't be communicated easily and quickly!

Also, ...
By: zasterguava. on 30 Dec 08, 14:43:20
Also, libertarianism is not an American 'perversion'- this is again a linguistic ploy (bordering on racist) by Chomsky to demonise and chastise a position without providing substance. Most Anarcho-capitalist base their ideas on classical liberal ideas and the economic theories of Austrian economists such as Ludwig Von Mises. I would be interested in hearing what 3rd world countries have been retarded in growth by liberalization. Zimbabwe perhaps (=;?

Chomsky unwittingly ...
By: zasterguava. on 30 Dec 08, 14:36:02
Chomsky unwittingly disproves the claim that libertarianism/unhindered capitalism is optimum for the 'fortunate' to exercise tyranny over the unfortunate by stating that the "wealthy would never allow it" as "they use the levers of power" (government) to exercise tyranny and the free market challenges the power structure. This is an argument FOR free market capitalism! Also, calling the private sector 'unnacountable tyrannies' is a masterclass in dishonest linguistics.

Agreed, votes are ...
By: freeyourcrt. on 28 Dec 08, 20:19:52
Agreed, votes are counted. There's some chicanery on the fringes to be sure, but the larger fraud goes on unabated. If the powerful control only the media and the parties, what say do you and I ultimately have? BTW, I am not sure I really have a problem with politicians being influenced. After all, that is their job isn't it?

The problem is that ...
By: newperve. on 28 Dec 08, 01:44:45
The problem is that if they had a direct say in their government the war would still have happened. The claim that people are never in favour of war before PR blitzes is irrevelent, there will be a PR blitze and they will want to kill. Anyway it's doubtful it's true.

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"the character of ...
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Check out the ...
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Check out the strident little Trot at the beginning! Why do they sound like fucking Jehovahs Witnesses?

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That's a great ...
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That's a great account of the Bolshevism and its paradoxical nature, which was camouflaged by its ideological (Marxian) doublespeak. Marxism has not yet seen its manifestation in any State.

That question was ...
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That question was endless! A fair question, but, c'mon. Good answer; I happen to mostly agree.

And The Emanciation ...
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No but building ...
By: Khomradeigor. on 17 Dec 08, 02:21:00
No but building Metros, parks, squares, houses, a strong army and defense does.

Her production has ...
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Industrial ...
By: ZakeD3. on 16 Dec 08, 10:51:17
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Somehow I doubt ...
By: newperve. on 16 Dec 08, 04:11:09
Somehow I doubt that is true. Having millions of people murdered and imprisoned in slave labour camps while junk science destroys crop yields doesn't generally increase productivity.

And if you're not ...
By: newperve. on 16 Dec 08, 04:08:48
And if you're not employed you're what your customers allow you. You can't generally do whatever you like and have people give you stuff. You have to do what produces what people want. This is hardly a tragedy.

You know they're ...
By: newperve. on 16 Dec 08, 02:57:40
You know they're not paid to create $100 worth of value, since you're not paying them $2 to do the same thing. And if you're paying someone by the hour that's exploitation by Marx's definition. Please explain why paying them by the job is different.

America went to war ...
By: newperve. on 16 Dec 08, 02:54:55
America went to war with itself over taxes, slavery had nothing to do with it. If you don't believe me, believe Lincoln. In America slavery survived through State intervention, not the free market. For instance the fugitive slave law and conscription for slave patrols (i.e. enslaving mostly poor whites to keep blacks from escaping from rich whites).

"Capitalism ended ...
By: Khomradeigor. on 16 Dec 08, 01:27:39
"Capitalism ended slavery by sheer productivity" gimme a break, is that why America as a first in the world had to go to war with itself after the industrial revolution?

Neither you or ...
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Neither you or ZakeD3 is right. The thing about wage-labour isnt who your boss is its what you as an employee is. And what youare is nothing else than what the borgueouise allows you. And yeah whoop-de-doo, i changed my job and got it worse, i can play that game too.

Funny then how ...
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Funny then how Soviet productivity increased during Stalin. And how was the NEP "abandoning everything the party stod for" when Lenin clearly counted the farmers as Petit-borgueouise even several years earlier?

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By: mutulus. on 15 Dec 08, 23:08:14
holy crap. just started the video, little pissed is she.

Is it really that ...
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Is it really that hard for you to see the difference between paying a self employed person to fix your car and a worker who gets payed a dollar to create 100 dollars worth of value? Or are you just playing dumb?

If you pay him by ...
By: newperve. on 15 Dec 08, 03:27:34
If you pay him by the hour it is, that's wage labour. And how is paying by results better?

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Si pudieras subtitularlo se agradecería muchísimo:) (Y ahora con la opción de traducir estos el vídeo llegaría a mucha más gente. Se que es un duro trabajo.) Gracias.

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Do people realize ...
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The term "anecdotal ...
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What of the myth of the noble savage?

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racism doesn't just ...
By: bart1989. on 27 Dec 08, 08:59:34
racism doesn't just exist because of capitalism, it's fear of the unknown, it isn't just capitalism fault. Why do you guys want it to be solely an econmocial struggle? what's wrong with fighting for freedom on all levels and not just the economical one?

Women struggle ...
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Women struggle isn't purely economical and existed long befor capitalism! women struggle isn't just for equal work and equal pay, it's for equal treatment, to be treated and seen as an equal, to be treated with respect in the spanish civil war their was a big womens liberation group called mujeres libres, and it wasn't just a purely economical struggle, they wanted to break free as individuals, not just as workers.

The state existed ...
By: Ceraziefish. on 26 Dec 08, 23:09:25
The state existed before capitalism, but did oppression exist before the economy was controlled by the few? We don't want to smash the state so we have something to do, we want to smash the state so we can build a truly egalitarian society. That will only happen when the economy is egalitarian -- people will stop exploiting one another when there is no more motivation to exploit.

Racism was invented ...
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Racism was invented to divide the working class. You can see examples of this in the early English colonies in America; white and black indentured servants worked together and supported each other in working class solidarity in the early days, until the bosses invented racism as a means to divide and conquer. Women's struggle is inherently economic; what do feminists fight for? The right to work at fair pay and to be respected as equals.

viva!
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viva!

molto bene! viva ...
By: TodosSomosMarcos. on 25 Dec 08, 03:21:21
molto bene! viva l'anarchismo Viva Zapatistas Viva Chavez

VIVA LA REPUBLICA!!
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VIVA LA REPUBLICA!!

The institutions in ...
By: dilmog. on 23 Dec 08, 01:12:08
The institutions in society that are responsible for the oppression of certain groups of people are created by capitalism. The culture of selfishness and abuse that comes along with capitalism is what is responsible for things such as women being treated unequally. In a system of egalitarian economic relations in which cooperation is stressed we would not have these problems, because the economic relations in which we live shape our culture.

i just refuse to ...
By: bart1989. on 21 Dec 08, 19:42:04
i just refuse to see anarchism as a PURELY economical struggle, it's a freedom struglle! Is the for exemple struggle for equality of women an economic struggle? the fight aginst racism also has little to do with economics, not everything in this society is based on economy! so if you wish to change society you do not only have to change the economy but laso mentalities, culture,...

What do you suppose ...
By: dilmog. on 20 Dec 08, 22:20:44
What do you suppose is the cause of imperialism then? Of course totalitarianism and the state existed before capitalism, but the development of the modern state is the result of economic forces. Also, the class struggle between labor and capital itself is a product of economic production relations. So really, a fight against the state, an institution created to protect capital from labor, is created by economic causes. So yes, anarchism is an economic struggle.

that's were you are ...
By: bart1989. on 20 Dec 08, 20:12:22
that's were you are wrong, imperialism isn't purely based on capitalism, allthough capitalism is one of the 'motives' , totalitarianism existed before capitalism, the state also existed befor capitalism, so anarchism isn't just an economic struggle!

All aspects of ...
By: dilmog. on 20 Dec 08, 19:07:47
All aspects of society are interconnected. Economic factors indeed do cause much of what anarchists fight against, namely exploitation which is inherent in the capitalist system, imperialism, totalitarianism, and the state, which protects the interests of the bourgeoisie and gives them the ability to hold private property allowing exploitation to take place.

the group is Sin ...
By: mr1001nights. on 20 Dec 08, 02:31:06
the group is Sin Dios

What group is this? ...
By: dilmog. on 19 Dec 08, 20:03:35
What group is this?/Qué grupo es?

you sound like a ...
By: bart1989. on 19 Dec 08, 15:12:24
you sound like a neomarxist who think that everything in society is based on iets economy, but that is not true! their is also culture, political and other spheres that are independent with connections and influences between them, but not all these other spheres are only and in one way influenced by economy! so to claim that anarchisme is a pure economic struggle is wrong, it's a political, cultural, economical... struggle!

and you don't need ...
By: bart1989. on 19 Dec 08, 15:10:55
and you don't need to be extreemly educated to be an anarchist, you don't need to read 10 books befor you ca see the oppression all around you! (i'm not saying reading books is bad) you say that it is an economic struggle? i'm not so sure about that, maybe in the past, right now it is nou only an economic struggle, it's a freedom struggle, a struggle agaisnt oppression, agianst the state-control (cameras, police)

although a part of ...
By: bart1989. on 19 Dec 08, 15:09:53
although a part of your critics on the modern anarchist movement are true, you can't see them as one whole, there are people who just heard some punk songs and say that they are anarchist, and it is true that are movement is much smaller then before but so are communist groups

All successful ...
By: kingjohntheman. on 17 Dec 08, 20:24:54
All successful revolutionary movements use education as a weapon against the state. To cede intelligence, intellect and theory to the Leninists is a sure way to guarantee that true anarcho-syndicalism never rises again. All revolutionary anarchist movements pre-1970 had theoretical newspapers. Emma Goldman, Mikhalev Bakhunin, Petr Kropotkin were all theoreticians and revolutionaries. The two are not and cannot be thought of as mutually exclusive! [see the video comments for the rest]

anarco sendicalism ...
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Only a true ...
By: kingjohntheman. on 15 Dec 08, 23:55:58
Only a true reactionary would equate "elitism" with clearly expressed revolutionary ideals. The power of the revolution rests on the power of our ideas, theories, etc. and our ability to express them fully and coherently. Unfortunately many revolutionary concepts have been co-opted by people who only parrot revolutionary rhetoric that they've learned off a punk album. All of the great anarchist movements started with READING GROUPS.

The struggle for ...
By: kingjohntheman. on 15 Dec 08, 23:37:57
The struggle for anarchism is an ECONOMIC struggle, carried out by and for the working class. It is a struggle that seeks to put the working class in control of their means of production, end the alienation and exploitation of labor, and to end the political exploitation of hierarchical political systems. Anarcho-syndicalist theory and practice has shown that destruction of a political system can only happen once the working class has taken control of the economy through revolutionary means.

We have become ...
By: kingjohntheman. on 15 Dec 08, 23:33:54
We have become infatuated with the aesthetics of revolution. We see that past revolutionary movements engaged in property destruction and we see that past revolutionary movements were often accompanied by redefining social/gender relations. Our present generation misconstrues this to mean that practicing property destruction, and re-defining gender roles are revolutionary acts. Unless they are in a revolutionary context they are not revolutionary acts.

It is a pathetic ...
By: kingjohntheman. on 15 Dec 08, 23:25:49
It is a pathetic waste of time to defend the ignorance of and stupidity of the type of "anarchist" who thinks that smashing a Starbucks window equals revolution. I remind you that the CNT-FAI was and is a UNION. So was the IWW. Anarchism begins when men and women of character go into working situations and organize revolutionary Unions and Collectives. If you are not doing this, you are not an anarchist.

All successful ...
By: kingjohntheman. on 15 Dec 08, 23:21:59
All successful revolutionary movements use education as a weapon against the state. To cede intelligence, intellect and theory to the Leninists is a sure way to guarantee that true anarcho-syndicalism never rises again. All revolutionary anarchist movements pre-1970 had theoretical newspapers. Emma Goldman, Mikhalev Bakhunin, Petr Kropotkin were all theoreticians and revolutionaries. The two are not and cannot be thought of as mutually exclusive!

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Chomsky vs. Canadian journalists p.4
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1988 event

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History of Spanish Anarchism p.1
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Feauturing interviews with many Spanish anarchists

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intersting history ...
By: xDAJx. on 19 Dec 08, 23:52:52
intersting history 4 stars

Colbert Report is ...
By: KenCat1337. on 14 Dec 08, 20:28:19
Colbert Report is for democrats. lol Too conservative. d:

Of course not! Good ...
By: DoomHippie. on 11 Dec 08, 03:02:10
Of course not! Good News doesn't make as much money as Yellow News! (There's a good reason all my news comes from the Colbert Report...)

fantastic, thank ...
By: kamlondonuk. on 02 Dec 08, 00:14:38
fantastic, thank you for uploading :) please accept my friend invite

no gods no masters
By: jblive1985. on 21 Oct 08, 01:36:09
no gods no masters

Because the ...
By: KenCat1337. on 07 Oct 08, 18:55:00
Because the documentary dispels many modern myths about anarchism and illuminates us as to the nature of free organization, tt is necessary for the mainstream to -never- publicize this sort of historical information. "Its dangerous" to reveal an apparently preferable alternative to the current form of organization -- it's suicide to reveal a functioning alternative. You wont see documentaries like this on mainstream TV! Sent to my contact list, favorited and rated five out of five.

well, they better ...
By: god0fmusic. on 04 Jul 08, 12:56:46
well, they better not get too secretive.

What about our ...
By: InsurgenistCujo. on 04 Jul 08, 07:42:59
What about our Marxist comrades? Should we keep a close eye on them if anything?

thats true, but ...
By: god0fmusic. on 03 Jul 08, 21:21:28
thats true, but then again, we have to keep a close watch on everyone, more than anything fascists, capitalists, and imperialists. the thing about anarchism is that anarchists cant possibly become dangerous, at least not in an authoritarian way.

There still under ...
By: InsurgenistCujo. on 03 Jul 08, 20:31:16
There still under the state communist banner or what I like to call pseudo communist, thought in my opinion Leninism is communism but too authoritarian. Those are people we need to keep a close watch on. What ever happen to the orthodox marxists? Do you have any?

hmm... i dont know. ...
By: god0fmusic. on 03 Jul 08, 20:06:28
hmm... i dont know. they're also maoists. in fact, they tend to be marxist-leninists, who also embrace stalinist and maoist ideologies.

Libertarian or not, ...
By: InsurgenistCujo. on 03 Jul 08, 18:51:25
Libertarian or not, A stalinist is a stalinist theres no two ways about it.

yea, there are ...
By: god0fmusic. on 03 Jul 08, 13:33:13
yea, there are still stalinists. a lot of em are more libertarian than they used to be though.

Those guys are ...
By: InsurgenistCujo. on 03 Jul 08, 09:44:23
Those guys are still around? I thought they only existed on you tube.

Thank you mr.. ...
By: 174JK50. on 01 Jun 08, 01:13:58
Thank you mr.. Although I'm not an anarchist myself I have the utmost respect for the movement & to all the brave class warriors in this most interesting film. IMO the mood of the proletariat is beginning to really question the world we live in, the bourgeoisie's stinking morals & the lies of the ruling clique's media & politicians. This is happening all across the globe. It is important that all lovers of freedom & justice begin to educate themselves on the destiny of the working class...

in the US they ...
By: god0fmusic. on 15 May 08, 17:03:35
in the US they supress communist ideologies though. they dont really mention anarchism, but they mention communism and make sure you dont think about it. its pretty annoying too how i am critiziced here for being an anarchist, especially by this stalinist guy i know who managed to convince everyone that stalinism is great.

What do u expect? ...
By: mr1001nights. on 15 May 08, 16:12:44
What do u expect? Power shapes ideology &educational institutions must cater to the needs of the biggest employers: Hierarchical institutions like government and corporations. I have the 3 volume series The CNT in the Spanish revolution by Jose Peirats which is 1 of the most important works on Spanish anarchism. When I went to Spain I tried to find it in Spanish& it was almost impossible. The fact it's much easier to find it in the US shows there's been a systematic attempt to suppress anarchism

i live in spain, ...
By: god0fmusic. on 15 May 08, 12:00:58
i live in spain, and it pisses me off how in my history book, anarchism is barely even mentioned. i dont think there is a single word about spanish anarchism in my history book.

Organise!
By: kabbinet. on 18 Mar 08, 02:47:38
Organise!

Where did you get ...
By: alba0104. on 03 Mar 08, 20:18:00
Where did you get this films? I am fascinated! It makes me really proud of being the grand-daughter of a spanish anarchist!

didn't take this ...
By: para15000. on 02 Mar 08, 10:20:58
didn't take this long still

Rome wasn't built ...
By: mr1001nights. on 02 Mar 08, 10:11:17
Rome wasn't built in a day

This is an ...
By: para15000. on 02 Mar 08, 09:52:49
This is an incredible documentary and everyone should see it. Seeing that it has so few views makes me sad. It's even sadder than the fact that the anarchist uprising was eventually crushed. The view counter shows what a greedy culture we have developed into and how the solidarity that was there well before the revolution is inexistent toady. Throughout the movie I have wondered how on earth I could help achieve something similar today in my country and I just can't see how...

"Anarchism isn't a ...
By: BrightHelmVellas. on 18 Jan 08, 18:17:59
"Anarchism isn't a theory, it isn't just a philosophy...It's a way of life" Exactly

thanks, there's ...
By: mr1001nights. on 18 Jan 08, 14:52:30
thanks, there's more to follow

Chomsky on Iraq in 2008
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wanna see him trash ...
By: aaron343432. on 08 Jan 09, 19:51:00
wanna see him trash oreilly

Uh, America lived ...
By: DoomHippie. on 07 Nov 08, 19:07:47
Uh, America lived under the boothell of colonialism too, in case you didn't know. And it's one of the biggest Imperial Countries there is. Race Card proves nothing.

Good lord you are ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 06 Nov 08, 12:29:14
Good lord you are stupid, i was called a Colonial racist by some bigoted idiot and i point out that calling and Irishman a Colonialist is one of the most stupidest things anyone could ever possibly say because we lived under the bootheel of Colonialism for 800 years and you go and disagree because you're a fucking idiot, well done retard, end of discussion. Again you miss the point, because of your lack of historical perspective no doubt.

You seem to be ...
By: DoomHippie. on 06 Nov 08, 12:14:53
You seem to be missing the point, what's the difference between you saying that and me saying that because your Irish you're more likely to be a drunk. They're both steriotypes based on race, and once again YOUR RACE DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING.

You seem to be ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 04 Nov 08, 10:40:19
You seem to be missing the point over and over and over again, are you retarded?... Where you are from and your culture DO affect who you are, i never said they completely define you, it was you who insisted they don't affect or shape you, and that's just bullshit, can't accept that?... too bad, i'm Irish, we lived under Colonial and Imperial rule for 800 years, so we're LESS likely to be racist or Colonial to other people, because our culture has born the brunt for so long, we don't forget.

I have a very ...
By: DoomHippie. on 04 Nov 08, 00:51:27
I have a very diverse heritidge, part of it is Irish (Also, I'm not American). Anyway, I'm sure there are racist Irishmen, technophobic Japanese, in-shape Americans, and freedom-loving Koreans. Get it through your head, people ARE effected by their heritige, but it doesn't mean they turn out any certain way.

If you believe that ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 29 Oct 08, 11:20:05
If you believe that where you grew up and your cultural background (i realise that being American you have none) has no direct bearing on who you are, then you're either ignorant or just plain stupid.

You seem to miss ...
By: DoomHippie. on 29 Oct 08, 03:12:30
You seem to miss that all I'm saying is that your ethnicity or nationality doesn't directly effect who you are. Example: Im part German and part Polish, but I dislike the taste of sausage.

Again, you seem to ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 27 Oct 08, 00:41:47
Again, you seem to be missing the obvious point here, the enormously obvious one at tht, he clled me a racist colonial, you claim to know history, yet you fail to see the absurdity in someone calling me, an Irishman, a racist colonial, maybe you're not aswell versed in history as you claim to be, as the obvious doesn't seem so... obvious to you :)

I know history. ...
By: DoomHippie. on 26 Oct 08, 01:06:19
I know history. A also know it's stupid to think that a person's personality is drawn from his heritage. It's still the Race Card.

He called me a ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 23 Oct 08, 20:36:19
He called me a racist colonial, I'm Irish, if you know History you'll know how absudly stupid that is, if you don't... well i guess you'll scratch your head.

"calling an Irish ...
By: DoomHippie. on 23 Oct 08, 20:31:24
"calling an Irish man a racist colonial is about the stupidest thing i've ever heard" Umm, did you just play the Race Card?

Yeah, we Anarchists ...
By: DoomHippie. on 23 Oct 08, 20:26:00
Yeah, we Anarchists really need a new name. Most of the names have a negative public image.

Actually, by the ...
By: DoomHippie. on 23 Oct 08, 20:24:53
Actually, by the ORIGINAL definition of the political left-right. Left was simply more government control, right was less. However, people seem to have changed the definitions of Left-Right to fit the Democrats and Republicans, instead of changing the definitions of those parties. However, it is IMPOSSIBLE to judge the whole political system on one dimension alone. Even the newer 2 dimensional spectrum is lacking. Personally, I find there is at least 11 dimensions in the whole political spectrm

I'm sorry, but ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 23 Oct 08, 15:04:10
I'm sorry, but someone who talks like a 12 year old spoilt brat does not work with Michael Albert or even at Znet.. you should just present yourself and your opinions as they stand, instead of firing off batty and childish insults, you make yourself look like more and more of a liar, which makes it tough for me, let alone anyone else, to take you seriously.

Hahaha.. look at ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 23 Oct 08, 15:01:05
Hahaha.. look at the anger in you, all bluster and bullshit. I'm not saying the elections were not fairly conducted, what i'm saying is, the pattern of voting in any occupied country is affected to the point of making any result a foregone conclussion. You are not thought of as Liberators, 650,000+ dead and 3-4 million refugees in other neighbouring countries, the wholesale pillage of Iraqi oil to Foreign (Western) Oil companies. No more of your angy ranting, we'll never see eye to eye.

Yes i'm sure the ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 23 Oct 08, 15:00:42
Yes i'm sure the Japanese loved being Vapourized in the hundreds of thousands and then having their entire educational, political and economic system written for them by the US, sure, that's a wonderful Democracy they inherited, one that refuses to listen to popular public opinion, like most, Germany is a unique case, as Both Russia and the US share responsibiility for its Division. Brush up on your chess skills.

No sectarian ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 23 Oct 08, 14:58:36
No sectarian violence before the US came, again this goes back to my point about the Supreme war Crime under International Law which the US government commited, all subsequent warcrimes branch from the act of aggression against another State, hopefully when the republicans are out of office, there will be enough Political Will to hold Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld accountable for their Warcrimes. by the way, calling an Irish man a racist colonial is about the stupidest thing i've ever heard, Kudos.

PSS hey fuck face ...
By: nubbs. on 23 Oct 08, 14:35:45
PSS hey fuck face, when was the last time you ask a sunni iraqi living in fear of shia militias what he want the US military to do in iraq? or in your little racist colonial mind are all brown iraqis think the same?

PS ask the people ...
By: nubbs. on 23 Oct 08, 14:34:07
PS ask the people of japan and west germany what they think about having real elections and a functioning democracy while being occupied. double check mate, moron

you are a fucking ...
By: nubbs. on 23 Oct 08, 14:32:13
you are a fucking arrogant little racist if you think YOU know what ALL iraqis want. show me one poll. one link. just one. im calling you on your bullshit apparently YOU think you know more than the carter center, the UN, and about a dozen other ngo's which all said the iraqi elections were fair. puppet government? lol i guess you think all those millions of iraqis who voted are idiots. and this is more proof of your racism

you are right - the ...
By: nubbs. on 23 Oct 08, 14:29:47
you are right - the US has a responsiblity for the violence in iraq. that is the they are staying in iraq. check mate. ps. i was writing for zmag and michael albert while you were still playing playstation, bitch

lol you really are ...
By: nubbs. on 23 Oct 08, 14:28:41
lol you really are a fucking idiot. international law says NOTHING about the responsibilities of an ILLEGAL invading power. where do you get this shit? ps there is a difference between international law and the nuremburg trials. but you knew that, right BUT if the US is responsible for the breakdown of iraq then they have, according to you logic, a responsibility to STAY in iraq and ensure the safety of the iraqi people, which is why they are staying. check mate

holy fuck you are ...
By: nubbs. on 23 Oct 08, 14:26:03
holy fuck you are an idiot. east timor!? the indonesian "atrocities" (to use chomsky's favorite word) happened AFTER chomsky was defending pol pot's and mao's "exercise in real democracy". hey fuck face, try reading "american power and the new mandarins" BEFORE you read "manufacturing consent".

Let me spell this ...
By: HoboSoulder. on 23 Oct 08, 12:10:34
Let me spell this out for you in simple language, you cannot have real or transparent democratic elections whilst being occupied by a foriegn power, this is basic logic here. The Vast majority of Iraqi Citizens want the US to LEAVE the country, Poll after poll after poll says this.. i'm not interested in the mandate a puppet government born under occupation wants, i'd rather listen to what the Iraqi people themselves want.

Chomsky vs. Canadian journalists p.1
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1988 event

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This is an amazing ...
By: TransfiguredNight. on 08 Dec 08, 10:38:12
This is an amazing interview! Please keep it up!

Noam is the best ...
By: planetzion. on 03 Dec 08, 09:52:34
Noam is the best debater I have ever heard...why o why do try hards honestly think they can get one over on him...its beyond me...

Does he really ...
By: 888zzz. on 25 Oct 08, 22:20:52
Does he really answer emails? He's so busy him answering emails doesn't seem possible.

Thank you for ...
By: F3loniousMonk. on 21 Oct 08, 12:44:33
Thank you for posting this. I would have to agree with bogey down there; why even try to spar with Chomsky? I mean, these guys probably had weeks if not more to prepare their best questions, the first guy even tried to refute Chomsky!!! He takes these intellectuals from whatever arena they want to battle in, into a sort of backyard wrestling match and breaks them over their own picnic tables... Thank the stars I was alive at the same time as this man, and could see the very best in action.

By the way, David ...
By: wildhippy. on 07 Oct 08, 02:07:56
By the way, David Frum, one of the journalists that Chomsky intellectually OWNES, was the Bush speech writer that came up with the phrase "Axis of Evil" - to bad a Chomsky brow beating didn't enlighten him - just mad him more of a right wing moron.

Why would anyone ...
By: erby1kabogey. on 31 May 08, 07:52:16
Why would anyone even attempt to fuck around wit Chomsky? lol It's hysterical listening to him verbally and mentally pulverize these assholes!

Chomsky is the best
By: CrstyleTheGreat. on 29 Apr 08, 15:38:03
Chomsky is the best

Check out Znet for ...
By: keytoothed. on 16 Apr 08, 17:29:06
Check out Znet for Chomsky articles! And check out the Chomsky Page on Myspace!!!

david frum, pwnd
By: KentAllard. on 15 Apr 08, 13:04:21
david frum, pwnd

fucking david frum, ...
By: 0neironaut. on 15 Apr 08, 04:16:26
fucking david frum, what a wimp.

I fucking hate ...
By: AllieCaulfield. on 15 Apr 08, 03:12:20
I fucking hate David Frum.

I get to see him ...
By: Chomskyan. on 15 Apr 08, 02:26:21
I get to see him all the time too and talk to him on occasions when he is not mobbed.... I usually just ask how he is holding up.... any real questions I would email him. I approached him about doing something on youtube but he cited time and physical constraints.... I think people like us should step in and do the type of analysis that he does, as Jonathan and others are currently doing, so maybe he can enjoy his final few years a bit more.... just a thought.

i would ask him ...
By: mr1001nights. on 15 Apr 08, 01:28:32
i would ask him well thought out, specific technical questions that no one has asked him before, about things like psychology, the mind, evolution, events, about people like Bakunin etc; don't ask him the "what can we do to change the world?" garbage that everyone asks him. But u don't need to interview him 1 on 1. He usually answers E-mails

mr1001 I have a ...
By: onlywhenprovoked. on 15 Apr 08, 01:14:25
mr1001 I have a serious question for you. I have the opportunity to do a short interview with Chomsky, I live close to MIT and I have spoken with him about the several times. If you had 15 to 20 minutes with him, what would you ask? I have been asking all of the biggest NC fans I know and I would love to hear your thoughts.

Chomsky vs. Canadian journalists p.3
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1988 event

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Chomsky media lecture 1988 p.3
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Necessary illusions

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Evilness of Power [3/10] Hierarchical Psychology
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Maybe you could get ...
By: jackriter. on 28 Dec 08, 21:30:47
Maybe you could get a whole bunch of people together and fight against groupism! Oh wait.....

Mr.Nights: The ...
By: GoGoOcto. on 28 Dec 08, 01:02:35
Mr.Nights: The biggest lobbies in Washington are unions and corporatists: UAW, Teachers, Law Enforcement, AMA, Lawyers, Big Argi-Farming Union, Police, Airlines, and Big Oil. Groupism pits groupists against groupists and groupists against individuals -- period!!! The Worker and Owner in a market-anarchy are beholden to the Consumer-who-Purchases or the Consumer-who-Invests -- period!! What I'm saying is simple fact -- it's not me vs you -- Its Anarchistic logic and economics -- period!!

Not force, but ...
By: mr1001nights. on 27 Dec 08, 15:05:35
Not force, but institutional magnification of solidarity&defense against those who would destroy it. The greatest purveyor of force, the state, developed to protect the rich from the poor-NOT the other way around. No society will voluntarily accept substantial wealth inequalities, which lead to exploitation and subordination-a violation of our leveling spirit. Ur refusal to mention worker's control of the workplace&economy shows u support wage slavery, so ur talk of voluntarism lacks credibility

You are talking ...
By: GoGoOcto. on 27 Dec 08, 08:52:38
You are talking about force. The "real" enemy is not the wealthy it is their method of acquiring wealth and we can control this if we form a very specific consumer union (to be run open source) and a very specific voting anarchy. I'm writing a book on this and I've bent the ears of several prominent Anarcho-Capitalists and Anarcho-Syndicalists (et al). All forms of Anarchism agree to voluntarism, it's the pre-requisite. Arguing renders us impotent. We need a do-able plan of action.

Mr.Nights: You are ...
By: GoGoOcto. on 27 Dec 08, 08:47:41
Mr.Nights: You are missing the point, what I'm talking about has never been done but it is do-able. You'll never get the 8% to give up their 80% hold on capital, because the 8% represents approximately 16M - 24M in America. With no effort the next 20% can easily be bought by the upper 8% -- the next 20% represents 36M. The upper 28% thus controls 98% of all wealth in America. If you want to make a class/unionist/groupist war then the above is what you are looking at.

A few people will ...
By: mr1001nights. on 27 Dec 08, 07:22:20
A few people will choose to remain self-employed, but we live in an advanced industrial economy that requires workplaces with many people. In order for people to control their productive lives-striving to have a say over decisions in proportion to the degree affected, they must form big participatory, non-hierarchical unions. Private ownership of those workplaces means wage slavery and workplace dictatorship. Workers are both, workers & consumers & need to control both to control their destinies

Mr Nights: The ...
By: GoGoOcto. on 27 Dec 08, 06:57:27
Mr Nights: The worker and owner both should be subservient to the consumer. Make all workers "sub-contractors" (that fits the voluntary model) and get gov't out of the regulatory business, out of the currency business, out of all markets. This way the owner must "lobby" the consumer; which is the case if there are no bailouts or subsidization. The "worker" is now "self-employed" in a "true" anarchist model. Until other countries are true anarchists you'll need a Navy and State Guard.

u can't avoid group ...
By: mr1001nights. on 27 Dec 08, 00:21:26
u can't avoid group dynamics. The goal has to do do with reducing hierarchy to minimal required for decent survival. I favor anarcho-unionism-without bosses, where workers control their workplace, economy & productive lives. What u describe seems like a society based on wage slavery and the destruction of solidarity. That leads to hierarchy and statism. "self-ownership" entail a commodity notion of self, which leads to insecurity (losing what one "owns") & thus hierarchy. We want to BE ourselves

Workers will also ...
By: mr1001nights. on 26 Dec 08, 21:56:24
Workers will also consume, so anarchism favors worker/consumer councils. In the society you advocate, workers don't participate in the management of production. They remain wage slaves lured into a passive non-participatory, reactionary consumerism. Uniting as a class helps achieve justice. Your denial of it achieves the opposite: The triumph of the divide-and-conquer class warfare of the owning classes against the working class. Control over our lives entail control over our productive lives

(#2) We can all ...
By: GoGoOcto. on 26 Dec 08, 20:13:22
(#2) We can all articulate the problem but these videos approach it from the negative capitalist and lump all wealthy people in the same pot. That's too simplistic and leads us toward Communist-Socialist class struggle -- which is just one group fighting another -- these groups are easy to divide and conquor (there are always sell outs in a group). The "consumer" is the most powerful and is first to abdicate power. We need a Consumer Union (Open Source) with a simple Constitution.

(#1) See behind ...
By: GoGoOcto. on 26 Dec 08, 20:08:49
(#1) See behind the speaker the "Democracy Now" logo -- Democracy-Communism-Socialism are "groupist" ideologies; they give power and take it away. The Unions have leaders, Corporations have leaders, the Wealthy have leaders, the Workers have two leaders (unions and owners). In a truly Anarchist society everyone is a private contractor and must care for their own healthcare and retirement as well as their marketability. That's barter and that's self-ownership.

Chomsky media lecture 1988 p.4
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Food Not Bombs Interview
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Chomsky gives advice to Obama
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That's exactly why ...
By: Arkinight. on 09 Jan 09, 05:34:36
That's exactly why he's marginalized, he even says this himself. But you need to understand by whom he is marginalized - certainly not the population, but definitely the mainstream media and the political class.

You're still ...
By: larkydozer. on 08 Jan 09, 15:39:25
You're still deflecting and showing yourself to be on a crusade about religion rather than demonstrating an ability to reason. You've still not explained why the assumption that the locus of discretion resides with an M.I.T. linguist and not in the individual. Care to stick to the topic or must you crusade more?

It's not a ...
By: vktrsx. on 06 Jan 09, 13:47:43
It's not a deflection, just a statement of what ought to be self-evident. It's like gods: there was a time before them, then one day somebody had a big idea. From that day to this, the burden of proof has rested on the shoulders of the believers, not the skeptics (who are still waiting). Ditto "free will." It's a spook somebody cooked up.

Nice deflection. ...
By: larkydozer. on 06 Jan 09, 13:38:50
Nice deflection. Chomsky does that in debate all the time.

I could give one, ...
By: vktrsx. on 04 Jan 09, 11:27:29
I could give one, but probably not in 500 characters or less. But then I don't need to. It is they who believe in the Free Will Phantom who bear the burden of proof, because it is they who make the outlandish claim that Homo sapiens is a magical creature.

Chomsky is ...
By: PersianGuileAgain. on 03 Jan 09, 16:21:34
Chomsky is presented in countless outlets and is one of the most quoted public intellectuals. How is it that he is "marginalised" , in light of this? Really a ridiculous comment that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

But of course your ...
By: larkydozer. on 03 Jan 09, 16:00:53
But of course your comment is not an reasoned argument.

Truth.
By: larkydozer. on 03 Jan 09, 16:00:15
Truth.

"Free will" is a ...
By: vktrsx. on 01 Jan 09, 19:49:51
"Free will" is a mythological spook, like "natural rights" and the "invisible hand."

Yes, because we all ...
By: larkydozer. on 28 Nov 08, 14:36:30
Yes, because we all know the locus of discretion resides with an M.I.T. linguist and not with an individual who possess free will.

you've really lost ...
By: InvaderZooych. on 28 Nov 08, 06:50:00
you've really lost it to corporate propaganda

Noam has really ...
By: PersianGuileAgain. on 20 Nov 08, 19:19:16
Noam has really lost it to paranoia.

He said that for ...
By: DANxCHORIN. on 17 Nov 08, 18:15:47
He said that for those in swing states. Chomsky lives in Massachusetts; a blue state. So he voted for Cynthia McKinney on the Green Party ticket. Just search "Chomsky endorses McKinney" on Google.

Source? I can ...
By: HauntingTheHoly. on 17 Nov 08, 17:12:10
Source? I can quote him as saying "I recommend voting against McCain, and that means voting for Obama without illusions"

What do people ...
By: cayetanoluis. on 17 Nov 08, 13:30:14
What do people think about the role of rational and scientific thinking in the running of a workers' society? Does genuine democratic participation in and of itself tend towards producing a society in which rationality comes to the fore? What role will the views of scientists themselves play in this new society, and if they are to be important, how will they come to facilitate and inform effective and humane solutions for running society for the benefit of all?

yeah i made a ...
By: ngbdkhg. on 15 Nov 08, 17:33:28
yeah i made a mistake, got a bit mixed up there

Nope, he voted for ...
By: DANxCHORIN. on 15 Nov 08, 12:01:51
Nope, he voted for Cynthia McKinney

No, he didn't.
By: keytoothed. on 14 Nov 08, 23:58:42
No, he didn't.

In fact, in a truly ...
By: BINKIE2000. on 12 Nov 08, 22:40:09
In fact, in a truly just system, ALL of the profit you now steal from your employees should be put to the common good, and you should be given the choice of doing something useful (like your employees), or be left to your own devices. It is wrong for one man to steal from another.

You can't ...
By: BINKIE2000. on 12 Nov 08, 22:37:48
You can't accumulate $1,000,000 using just your own labour - you do it by stealing a little bit of the added value each of your employees produces in HIS labour. So given that, it seems only fair that YOU should be taxed, and the employee, who has already made his contribution, not at all.

I always wonder ...
By: baseballnolie34. on 12 Nov 08, 11:07:42
I always wonder this: in your moral system, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread from a wealthy man to feed your starving family? Say there are two men, one with $1,000 total worth and one with $1,000,000,000. Is it equivalent to: 1) Take $500 from both 2) Take 10% from each 3) Take 10% from 1, 50% the other Do you believe that "all men are an island", in the sense that they make their own destiny and their lot in life is due only to their own choices? Thoughts on equality of opportunity?

I agree with you ...
By: pythagoras9. on 12 Nov 08, 10:25:02
I agree with you that people need more democracy. Switzerland is a democracy and nobody is forcing anyone to drink hemlock over there. The rich and the powerful don't want the masses to have more democracy and this is because it threatens their own power as well as the manipulative hold that they have over the masses.

haha, Noam Chomsky ...
By: ngbdkhg. on 11 Nov 08, 13:12:07
haha, Noam Chomsky voted for Barack Obama this year

...yeah !!!!!!....
By: bebop54. on 11 Nov 08, 12:55:41
...yeah !!!!!!....

U shouldn't let ...
By: mr1001nights. on 11 Nov 08, 03:20:54
U shouldn't let elite definitions of democracy affect ur judgement--there r real examples of it, small & large.Those algorithms r the only thing that can protect minority rights. Unless people construct forums in which they strive to have a say over decisions in proportion to how much theyre affected by those decisions, their freedom will be trampled. The only structures that provide for such algorithms in an economy seem to be worker's councils democratically controlling the means of production

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